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Present tense forms in -idh

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	== Present tense forms in -idh ==		== Present tense forms in -idh ==

	In Classical Gaelic there was a distinction between independent and dependent endings of the 3rd person sg. present tense, e.g. ''ithidh (sé)'' ‘he eats’ versus ''ní ith (sé)'' or ''ní itheann (sé)'' ‘he does not eat’. The ''-ann'' ending spread to independent position after the 15th c. and eventually mostly pushed the old ''-idh'' ending out by the beginning of the 18th c. These ''-idh'' forms like ''féadaidh sé'', ''ólaidh sé'' are still used in certain dialects and contexts though.		In [[:Category:Classical Gaelic\|Classical Gaelic]] there was a distinction between independent and dependent endings of the 3rd person sg. present tense, e.g. ''ithidh (sé)'' ‘he eats’ versus ''ní ith (sé)'' or ''ní itheann (sé)'' ‘he does not eat’. The ''-ann'' ending spread to independent position after the 15th c. and eventually mostly pushed the old ''-idh'' ending out by the beginning of the 18th c. These ''-idh'' forms like ''féadaidh sé'', ''ólaidh sé'' are still used in certain dialects and contexts though.

	In Teileann they remain as normal present tense forms, in free variation with forms in -ann<ref>Wagner, H., 1979. ''Gaeilge Theilinn'' §277.</ref>. Further north they appear to be only used as a "historical present" in a narrative register.		In Teileann they remain as normal present tense forms, in free variation with forms in -ann<ref>Wagner, H., 1979. ''Gaeilge Theilinn'' §277.</ref>. Further north they appear to be only used as a "historical present" in a narrative register.

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	== Present tense forms in -idh ==		== Present tense forms in -idh ==

	In Classical Gaelic there was a distinction between independent and dependent endings of the 3rd person sg. present tense, e.g. ''ithidh (sé)'' ‘he eats’ versus ''ní ith (sé)'' or ''ní itheann (sé)'' ‘he does not ~~drink’~~. The ''-ann'' ending spread to independent position after the 15th c. and eventually mostly pushed the old ''-idh'' ending out by the beginning of the 18th c. These ''-idh'' forms like ''féadaidh sé'', ''ólaidh sé'' are still used in certain dialects and contexts though.		In Classical Gaelic there was a distinction between independent and dependent endings of the 3rd person sg. present tense, e.g. ''ithidh (sé)'' ‘he eats’ versus ''ní ith (sé)'' or ''ní itheann (sé)'' ‘he does not eat’. The ''-ann'' ending spread to independent position after the 15th c. and eventually mostly pushed the old ''-idh'' ending out by the beginning of the 18th c. These ''-idh'' forms like ''féadaidh sé'', ''ólaidh sé'' are still used in certain dialects and contexts though.

	In Teileann they remain as normal present tense forms, in free variation with forms in -ann<ref>Wagner, H., 1979. ''Gaeilge Theilinn'' §277.</ref>. Further north they appear to be only used as a "historical present" in a narrative register.		In Teileann they remain as normal present tense forms, in free variation with forms in -ann<ref>Wagner, H., 1979. ''Gaeilge Theilinn'' §277.</ref>. Further north they appear to be only used as a "historical present" in a narrative register.

Silmeth at 10:43, 14 July 2022

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	== Present tense forms in -idh ==		== Present tense forms in -idh ==

	In ~~older forms~~ of ~~the language~~ the 3rd person present ~~verb forms were in -idh~~, e.g. ''féadaidh sé'', ''ólaidh sé''~~. These forms~~ are still used in certain dialects and contexts.		In Classical Gaelic there was a distinction between independent and dependent endings of the 3rd person sg. present tense, e.g. ''ithidh (sé)'' ‘he eats’ versus ''ní ith (sé)'' or ''ní itheann (sé)'' ‘he does not drink’. The ''-ann'' ending spread to independent position after the 15th c. and eventually mostly pushed the old ''-idh'' ending out by the beginning of the 18th c. These ''-idh'' forms like ''féadaidh sé'', ''ólaidh sé'' are still used in certain dialects and contexts though.

	In Teileann they remain as normal present tense forms, in free variation with forms in -ann<ref>Wagner, H., 1979. ''Gaeilge Theilinn'' §277.</ref>. Further north they appear to be only used as a "historical present" in a narrative register.		In Teileann they remain as normal present tense forms, in free variation with forms in -ann<ref>Wagner, H., 1979. ''Gaeilge Theilinn'' §277.</ref>. Further north they appear to be only used as a "historical present" in a narrative register.

	== The historical present ==		== The historical present ==

	The forms in -idh can be used in the narrative register to refer to past actions, for example:		The forms in ''-idh'' can be used in the narrative register to refer to past actions, for example:

	<blockquote>Ach goidé a rinne sé ach ar bhfeiceáil ar thógáil ruball Árd-na-gaoithe dó, agus '''pillidh sé'''.<ref>Ó Grianna, S., 1927. ''Cioth is Dealán'' p. 91.</ref></blockquote>		<blockquote>Ach goidé a rinne sé ach ar bhfeiceáil ar thógáil ruball Árd-na-gaoithe dó, agus '''pillidh sé'''.<ref>Ó Grianna, S., 1927. ''Cioth is Dealán'' p. 91.</ref></blockquote>
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	== See Also ==		== See Also ==

	http://www.nualeargais.ie/gnag/verbend.htm §present tense		* http://www.nualeargais.ie/gnag/verbend.htm §present tense
			* [[Notes on Classical Gaelic Grammar]]
			* [https://xn--lamh-bpa.org/grammar/present-indicative/ ''Present Tense'' in léamh.org grammar]

	== References ==		== References ==

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	== References ==		== References ==

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	These forms have been recorded in Toraigh <ref>Hamilton, J. N., 1974. ''A phonetic study of the Irish of Tory Island, Co. Donegal'' p. 172 §f.</ref>		These forms have been recorded in Toraigh <ref>Hamilton, J. N., 1974. ''A phonetic study of the Irish of Tory Island, Co. Donegal'' p. 172 §f.</ref>

			== See Also ==

			http://www.nualeargais.ie/gnag/verbend.htm §present tense

	== References ==		== References ==

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== Present tense forms in -idh ==

In older forms of the language the 3rd person present verb forms were in -idh, e.g. ''féadaidh sé'', ''ólaidh sé''. These forms are still used in certain dialects and contexts.
In Teileann they remain as normal present tense forms, in free variation with forms in -ann<ref>Wagner, H., 1979. ''Gaeilge Theilinn'' §277.</ref>. Further north they appear to be only used as a "historical present" in a narrative register.

== The historical present ==

The forms in -idh can be used in the narrative register to refer to past actions, for example:

<blockquote>Ach goidé a rinne sé ach ar bhfeiceáil ar thógáil ruball Árd-na-gaoithe dó, agus '''pillidh sé'''.<ref>Ó Grianna, S., 1927. ''Cioth is Dealán'' p. 91.</ref></blockquote>

These forms have been recorded in Toraigh <ref>Hamilton, J. N., 1974. ''A phonetic study of the Irish of Tory Island, Co. Donegal'' p. 172 §f.</ref>

== References ==